i covered the energy crisis, three mile island and the aftermath of the -- of it. >> on tv, we pay so much attention to what women wear and their hair. is that still true, or is it getting better? >> there was an article -- >> i saw the article in the washington post. and there was a story about the clothes women are wearing, the they are not wearing suits as much. it was only about women. >> i think it is exciting that we're covering major beats in front of and behind the account -- the cameras. we are running broadcasts and making big decisions. we have women in executive roles. >> but do you feel that women have to have blonde, puffy hair? >> in some instances, yes. in my 34 years with nbc news and before that, i was the proud employee of newsweek on channel 9. i was recruited to come here by newsweek and had two very happy years at channel 9. nobody ever said to me -- well, maybe once. i was wearing something with polka dots that i thought was very chic, and someone said if you ever wear that again, i will murder you. it was way too loud. it was terrible. but it is a visual medium